Learning Every Day: Lessons from ZoomInfo's IPO

On the heels of Zoominfo’s IPO, our own Ashley Evans, a principal who focuses on technology investments out of the Menlo Park office, shares lessons from her experience backing ZoomInfo on its journey to the largest software IPO in a decade. 

As a technology investor for Carlyle, I spend all of my time thinking about technology companies – what helps them grow, what may get in their way and what will make them great businesses. Our team has invested $32 billion in technology businesses over the last 20 years, and we scour the landscape daily, looking for 3-5 exceptional businesses to add to our portfolio annually. As we work through this set of opportunities, we do a tremendous amount of detailed analysis to parse and determine, based on our judgment and experience, which investments are most likely to generate the best returns for our investors. 

When we looked at ZoomInfo (which was then known as DiscoverOrg) two years ago, we saw a highly compelling opportunity: the business has B2B network effects, is obsessed with its customers, has an unmatched financial profile and large addressable markets, and is disrupting and fundamentally improving the ways that sellers sell. 

But what I learned about this business as we came to know the team, and as I have served on the company’s board over the last two years, is that one thing, which is very hard to measure, contributed meaningfully to its outsized success: a commitment to continuous improvement. 

Continuous ImprovementContinuous improvement is a familiar management principle. The idea of getting incrementally better every day is not a hard one to grasp. Because this principle is simple, however, does not mean it is easy. 

In fact, I would offer that, based on my fifteen years at Carlyle, meeting 50-100 companies a year, the number of companies truly committed to this principle is very few. But these companies have the ability to reap uncommon rewards. ZoomInfo is one such company. 

What does a commitment to continuous improvement look like? 
I remember distinctly our first meeting with Henry Schuck, ZoomInfo’s CEO and founder in early 2018. Henry did not want to hear from us, in that meeting, about all of the good things we knew about his business. Instead, he asked, “What is the worst thing you have learned about the company? What is the biggest risk we face?” Henry pushed us to distill our views on his business from the perspective of other investments we had made over time. In a session where we were meant to learn from him, Henry challenged us to teach him. 

Where does this commitment come from? 
As I walked out of that first meeting with Henry, I had a sense that all the investment merits we had identified, everything we had found compelling about his business, were outcomes of years of such meetings. As I have come to know Henry and the business, I have concluded that this commitment to continuous improvement is core to his own character. 

Henry is self-taught. He started the business because he had been an entry-level data gatherer who had seen a problem: sales tools are only as good as the information they contain, and that information is terrible. And Henry’s self-taught orientation had become a lifelong commitment to learning, which he had imbued into the culture of his company.

What does a commitment to continuous improvement result in? 
The commitment to continuous improvement comes across in every action that ZoomInfo takes. 

After Carlyle invested in the business in early 2018, every member of the management team wanted to know what we had learned from their customers and our advisors, and to identify and prioritize areas of improvement. They worked with us and our partners at TA Associates and 22C Capital to define the company’s value creation plan. The company embraced our firms’ resources and challenged us to provide perspective based on our experience. The team then operationalized these targets and achieved them in record time. 

Relentless rigor around KPIs fuels the business. Chris Hays runs a sales team that measures activity from the top to the bottom of the funnel – every activity from outbound dials to booked business by rep is measured, every single day. Nir Keren’s engineering team is constantly listening to customers, prioritizing ways to make the product more useful and integrating those capabilities in the platform. Cameron Hyzer’s finance team analyzes all of these measurements, asks why they are seeing the trends they are seeing, and recommends changes based on these learnings. Cameron also led the several-month IPO process, marshaling resources from across the company and our advisors to present the company to the public, virtually, completing the largest software IPO in a decade -- during a pandemic.

Perhaps the most visible example of this culture of learning came when DiscoverOrg acquired ZoomInfo in early 2019. The full team recognized the powerful complementarity of the DiscoverOrg and ZoomInfo products, and a combined team identified the best features of each product and built out new features that customers valued, launching the new platform in a record six months. When it became clear that ZoomInfo had a stronger online presence, thanks to the marketing prowess of CMO Hila Nir, the team quickly embraced the ZoomInfo brand.

Where can this commitment take you? 
ZoomInfo’s culture is to operate with a discipline and focus that drives steady and consistent improvement. As Henry said in his Founder’s Letter in the IPO prospectus, ZoomInfo employees “come in early… stay late, and refuse to lose every step of the way.” This commitment enabled Henry and his team to bootstrap a company from a law school dorm room to become a powerful software platform, improving the way that thousands of companies sell, giving them the resources to be data-driven in their approach, and therefore drive their own self-improvement. 

What does this commitment teach us? Many things, but most importantly that technology companies (for all the fancy words we investors may use to describe them), are fundamentally people businesses. People – whether developers, product managers, salespeople or administrative staff – can choose every day to be oriented toward learning, and therefore growth. With an eye toward continuous improvement, we all have the potential, in our everyday, ordinary world, to build something extraordinary. 

Investing in ZoomInfo has been one of the great privileges of my career. The simple-but-not-easy commitment to continuous improvement takes discipline, grit and humility. As ZoomInfo team members teach themselves how to be better every day, every day they get a little bit better at everything they do. 

To the ZoomInfo team – thank you for letting me learn alongside you. I am proud to be a part of your journey and I look forward to your continued success.


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